Technical knowledges & human souvenirs about of analogue film practise resulting from the project RE MI
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+ | Lab : Film Base (Saint-Étienne, | ||
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+ | ==== From R.T. ==== | ||
+ | Lab : nanolab Australia | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | getting a good documentation is sometimes difficult. | ||
+ | We can sometimes provide a space for expanded cinema. | ||
+ | We don't really have space for expanded cinema rehearsal or for experimentation while in residence | ||
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+ | On performing : | ||
+ | problems have been: wrong type of projectors, projectors with no optical sound capacity, working in raked cinema spaces has also caused problems | ||
+ | A choice of projectors! | ||
+ | Practicing is difficult. | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | Lenses are always hard to come by! | ||
+ | Synchronous projectors are obviously desirable in some circumstances. | ||
+ | A replacement amplifier for Eiki or other projectors would be very useful. | ||
+ | Another device that is problematic is dimming of projector lamps. | ||
+ | A set up to be able to easily switch an Eikis motor to a DC motor and then back again would be very useful. | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Projector device : | ||
+ | building a new projector is not likely to happen. | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | The easy solution is printing with a projector. | ||
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+ | Looping device : | ||
+ | The lab in Indonesia copied an existing model. | ||
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+ | ==== From R.S ==== | ||
+ | Lab : Handmade Film Institute, USA | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | I am especialy interested in creating a 16mm projector for live performance -- a projection intrument might be a better description. | ||
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+ | I have created and am (or was, pre-pandemic) refining a manual contact printer, which is specifically designed to use very little power and is lightweight enough to carrying while backpacking. | ||
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+ | I am also interested in creating a manual camera, something capable of a bit more representationality that the pinhole camera I created and have been using for years. | ||
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+ | I feel strongly that all of these designs should be openly available. | ||
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+ | Any device -- the projector, say -- ought to be as simply made as possible, and should be as modular and easy to repair as possible. | ||
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+ | ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : | ||
+ | I am a big believer in the need to reengineer film equipment so that it is on a small scale appropriate to an individual artist or small facility. | ||
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+ | ==== From E.V.R ==== | ||
+ | Lab : LABOBxL Brussels/ | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | ° Finding places that are interested. How to find out about the interesting ones without having to follow all social and artistic media every day. | ||
+ | ° I mostly bring my own tools to build up, but to maintain the film installation, | ||
+ | ° Not myself, not at LABOBxL, though Brussels has a few of them. | ||
+ | ° At LABOBxL people are welcome to work on a project. We'll help them out. Though we don't have a budget for them, and no place to stay for longer periods. | ||
+ | ° A mix of | ||
+ | the workspaces, two darkrooms, bedroom, bathtub and kitchen of MTK Grenoble, | ||
+ | the huge space and professional machines of L' | ||
+ | the practicality of Laborberlin, | ||
+ | and the cozy darkroom and screening theater of Filmwerkplaats Rotterdam. | ||
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+ | On performing : | ||
+ | ° finding functioning 16mm projectors abroad that don't need two days of cleaning and repairing. | ||
+ | ° Electricity and a dark space, practical tables high enough to project overhead, with easy access to the machines. | ||
+ | ° In my living room | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | ° digital sync sound easily connectable to all kind of projectors. | ||
+ | ° Yes I manage | ||
+ | ° I made 15 loopers (max 10 minutes) and a device to sync two projectors with a manual start and automatic stop system. I never made a tutorial but I'm willing to share the technique if someone asks for it. It took me years to find out about Arduino and someone able to adjust two projectors, make me a device and application in MAXmsp. In other words Arduino came much later then when I started my research and seemed the solution at that time (2009) | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Projector device : | ||
+ | LED, cold light. (installations that work with motion sensors make the film stop when the gate is still hot, this damages a few images every time. | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | very slow speed, low light printing. | ||
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+ | Sound device : | ||
+ | a simple sync sound device with any filmprojector | ||
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+ | Looping device : | ||
+ | a looper on which the film image doesn' | ||
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+ | ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : | ||
+ | Thanks! Love from Brussels | ||
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+ | ==== From M.N. ==== | ||
+ | Lab : L' | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | These answers were composed together with Tomaž Burlin who works as coordinator at L' | ||
+ | Currently, L'Abo has a screening room with a big screen, nice speakers, and an isolated projection booth equipped with 35mm, 16mm and video. This is a great space for rehearsal and even performance, | ||
+ | In the future space, we hope to have a screening room that would be able to welcome expanded cinema practitioners for rehearsals and performance, | ||
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+ | On performing : | ||
+ | Tomaž practices his pieces at L' | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | The engineer who works at L' | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Projector device : | ||
+ | ability to synchronize with other projectors | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | ability to make mattes (for special effects) | ||
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+ | Looping device : | ||
+ | 10 min (120 m) would be great | ||
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+ | ==== From A.M ==== | ||
+ | Lab : Iris Film Collective (Vancouver Canada) | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | 1. Venues can be problematic: | ||
+ | sightlines, wall colour, audio equipment, proper power a/c, cables, seating, and just a simple very sturdy table are often hard to come by. | ||
+ | Complete darkness is a HUGE issue - very hard to get. | ||
+ | Travelling with gear is awkward and expensive. | ||
+ | Fees are often very low or non-existent. | ||
+ | 2. Proper power converters, proper tables, good positioning, | ||
+ | 3. No | ||
+ | 4. No - I have a studio/ | ||
+ | 5. Big, dark, screen options, proper stable tables, proper angle of view, plenty of power, washroom, kitchen, low noise levels, soundproof. | ||
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+ | On performing : | ||
+ | 1. see #1 above | ||
+ | 2. A knowledgeable technician who has clearly read and understood and prepared for the supplied tech sheets, as well as inquired ahead of time with any questions or clarifications. | ||
+ | 3. In a limited space with a small throw (studio), very occasionally at a venue that becomes available for free/cheap when the timing is right. | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | 1. quality 16mm projectors that are fully functioning and well maintained. same for other formats depending (slide projectors, 35mm projectors, viewers, etc) | ||
+ | 2. I often create my own - wooden lightbox (16mm modified analytic), analytic projectors that are hacked, 16mm modified, 35mm viewer converted to projector, etc. Yes, happy to share. | ||
+ | 3. See # 2, precision tools for creation don't exist in my world, and budgets are limited, so I don't built out of aluminum or 3D, usually wood and screws, sometimes plastics. | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Projector device : | ||
+ | YES! | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | Sounds great. | ||
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+ | Sound device : | ||
+ | Yes - this is massive, so many possibilities. | ||
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+ | Looping device : | ||
+ | yes, and very do-able. | ||
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+ | ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : | ||
+ | Portable lab systems would be amazing, as often touring involves presenting a show but also workshops. | ||
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+ | ==== From H.S ==== | ||
+ | Lab : klubvizija, croatia | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | since the eviction of my lab (klubvizija) from zagreb student centre, the lab is a bit dysfunctional and the space we use varies on a case-to-case basis. | ||
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+ | at the time, most of projection and developing equipment is stored at my studio, that i use for work and land to other lab members when needed. it is a shared space and consists of a workshop, office space and a multipurpose space for projection / expanded work. but not being a dedicated place - it's far from ideal. | ||
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+ | the tools/ | ||
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+ | (at least) two digital projectors of the same brand and make | ||
+ | movable projection screens (for front and back projection) | ||
+ | at least 2 separate 220V 20A power circuits with well dispersed outlets | ||
+ | pa system that is easy to connect to | ||
+ | stage lighting with dmx dimmer | ||
+ | 16mm film splicer | ||
+ | black film leader | ||
+ | multicoloured gaffer tape | ||
+ | basic hand tools and a wireless drill | ||
+ | soldering iron and a multimeter | ||
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+ | the space should me as neutral as possible, with white walls that can be used as projection screens | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | my practice is based on research of technology and techniques so development of new (and sometimes useful) techniques is almost always a byproduct. | ||
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+ | i always make a point on de-mystifying the processes behind the work and make the schematics and step-by-step process available to anyone that is interested. | ||
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+ | the useful tools that i developed/ | ||
+ | -a nema17 motor mount for bolex (that can be used with a dc motor or a stepper for frame-by.frame exposure) | ||
+ | -a primitive optical sound recorder using a hacked eiki projector (very lo-fi, produces a variable density soundtrack) | ||
+ | -a variable speed / light intensity 16mm film projector (using a hacked siemens 2000 projector) | ||
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+ | the tools i'm missing (besides the ones mentioned below) is a low cost 16mm tape splicer and a easy to use and obtainable optical sound recorder (preferably variable area) | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Projector device : | ||
+ | the ability to be able to program the functions (light intensity, projection speed) via a micro controller (arduino or similar) or to use a on-board potenciometres to change the functions | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | it would be nice to be able to separately expose the image part and the sound track. this way you could combine the sound and image from two separate sources without inter-negatives. | ||
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+ | Sound device : | ||
+ | an open source, variable area optical sound track recorder | ||
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+ | ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : | ||
+ | one piece of equipment that is prohibitively expensive is a 16mm tape splicer. the price of a second hand splicer | ||
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+ | also i think that a low cost optical sound recorder should not be that hard to develop. it could also be a part of (or an add-on to) the optical printer. | ||
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+ | ==== From B.A-B ==== | ||
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+ | Lab : Filmverkstaden, | ||
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+ | On exhibitions : | ||
+ | - Technical issues; | ||
+ | equipment | ||
+ | darkening of the space | ||
+ | projection possibilities | ||
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+ | - Expanded cinema projects can be shown in the same places where video art is being shown | ||
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+ | - We (Filmverkstaden, | ||
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+ | - This space can be darkened, has enough width, length and height to make projections of a certain size (depending of the idea of the project) and it has an electrical outlet. Projections could happen on walls, but also on windows or screens. | ||
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+ | On performing : | ||
+ | - Technical issues; | ||
+ | space should be very very dark, preferably without exit signs | ||
+ | preferred projectors aren't available or in bad condition | ||
+ | there is not enough space to set up projectors, either in the back or in the front | ||
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+ | - Try-out is divided in different levels. Small try-outs in our own studio space. Best try-out is in the space itself, as it is very site-specific. Then a couple of hours are needed to check out all the possibilities in the space and how the film material works with the architecture and the provided equipment. | ||
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+ | On tools and devices : | ||
+ | - projectors with adjustable speed and light | ||
+ | - motion sensors/ | ||
+ | - other ways to modify the functions of a projector | ||
+ | - separate shutters | ||
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+ | Functions suggestions : | ||
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+ | Contact printer : | ||
+ | Bipacking a Bolex is a good alternative! | ||
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+ | ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : | ||
+ | Filmverkstaden is looking back on 10 years of activities and celebrating this with a 3 month exhibition with expanded cinema works, a conference and a festival with filmscreenings and live cinema performances. This is accompanied by a publication. | ||
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+ | Exhibition in Vaasa City Art Gallery: 28.5-8.8.2021 | ||
+ | Conference: 6.8.2021 | ||
+ | Festival: 7-8.8.2021 | ||
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+ | We would be happy to share and we would also be very interested to be involved in this project, both as a lab and as individual members working with expanded cinema. |